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Jobloft - for those who missed it

For those who missed it, you can see the Ep 8: Where are they Now episode this weekend on CBC Newsworld.  But for those just seeking the "Jobloft" story.  Here is what was shown.

Post your comments on the show here:

http://www.jobloft.com/blog/2006/11/22/jobloftcom-the-suns-still-shining-outside-the-den/#comments

or tell the Boys directly what you think and hear their side of the story in their own words here:

http://www.jobloft.com/blog/2006/11/22/jobloftcom-the-suns-still-shining-outside-the-den/#comments

Jobloft - what happened?

Lots of chatter throughout the ole blog'o'sphere on what happened with Jobloft last night. 

You can hear "the Boys in the Orange Ties" tell their side of the story here: http://www.jobloft.com/blog/2006/11/22/jobloftcom-the-suns-still-shining-outside-the-den/#comments

You can read Jobloft comments on the CBC site here: http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/e03/6.html#epnav

But for now, I have only one question for you.........

Discussion of Episode 8: Where are they now?

Ok, I know I'm jumping the gun here, posting early for Epsiode 8, but I feel it is my duty to do so. I need to make sure you don't miss it tonight.  Cuz Folks.....this was

THE BEST EPISODE EVER

No really. Not just the Best Dragons Den episode....the best episode of tv this season. It has all the dialogue of Studio 60, the drama of Battlestar Galactica and the suspense of Lost.  If you haven't seen Dragons' Den yet (ummm.....why are you reading this blog?) you have to watch the show tonight.

Tell your friends. Tell your enimies.  Tell everyone.  Tonight, CBC, 8 pm, is MUST SEE TV.

Find out:

  • who regrets not taking Dragon money?
  • who followed Dragon advice and got a job?
  • whose deal feel apart?
  • whose business has doubled sales since their time in the Den?
  • who thinks the Dragons are "Canadian Jerk offs"?

Tune in tonight to find out!!!!!

Special Kudos to the entire CBC DD team.  Tracie, Mike D, Mikey A, Owen, Stu and the whole gang in the editing suite. Well done!!! Well done indeed!!

Discussion of Episode 1 & 7: Sleep, Eat, Exercise

Well there you have it. Episode One: Sleep, Eat, Exercise (also now known as Episode 7). Now that the show has aired, we'd like to know what you think? Do you agree with the Dragons:

Excersiser_5Is the market too crowded for another exercise machine?Power_guy

Was Kevin correct? Will it take years before the power goes  online for this tidal energy play?

Nap_lady_3_1 Is it wrong to allow your employees to Nap or do the Dragons need to wake up?Jp_and_the_magic_banana

What about JP and her feminine excersiser? Did she get a fair shake?

Cenebal_2 Will Jennifer's organic omega 3 salad dressing be a hit?

and what about our Dragons, how'd they do?  Were they honest enough? Too Direct? How bout the show overall? Is this something you will watch again? How can we improve it? 

Let us know -- post below!

Discussion of Episode 6: The strange tale of the two willied dog at the poodle convention

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Well that was quite a show.....bug ladies, haunted houses farms that want to be theme parks and caskets for pets.  But most of all, that was our first ever two deal show.

  • So what do you think:
  • did the Dragons pick the right deals to back?
  • did the entreprenerus get good deals?
  • Is there a future in Bug Muesums?

Let us know!

Discussion of Episode 5 - The Good, The Bad & the BBQ

Once again, we are treated to a wide variety of pitches tonight, including Ginch Gonch,_mg_7810  Goody2Chews and a portable BBQ perfect for Tailgating.

Once again, we see the importance of valuation, personality fit, and flexibility.

So let's talk valuation for a minute and set the record straight:

1)  valuation is an art not a science.

It is based on the following formulas:

Value of the company = amount invested / % offered

so if you offer 5% for $700,000 you are setting valuation at $14,000,000. 

Valuation is an art not a science, especially for seed and angel deals like the ones on Dragons Den. 

Investors, seek to make 10x their investment over 5-7 years. So they need to figure out the company's TERMINAL VALUE, i.e. what they can sell the company for, and then ensure they can get their 10x.

Take Ginch Gonch, they set their valuation at $14M and offered the Dragons 5% for $700,000. So for this to be a good deal that 5% would have to equal $7M and therefore the company after 5 years would have to be worth $140M. The Dragons, simply did not think that would be the case.

There are lots of benchmarks used by investors, but Kevin deploys a revenue multiple in this case.  He says he doesn't think the boys' company is worth 13X revenue.  Last year the typical M&A transaction in Canada went for an average 2.6X revenue. So you see the gap.

2) 50%+ is not required for control

Any investor can control a company with a shareholders agreement or by buying shares with special rights.  If I wanted to control a company with 5%, I would simply buy %5 worth of pref A shares, with the special right to sign all cheques over $500. I may not have enough shares to vote control, but I control the purse strings and thus the company.

It is a myth that you need 51% to control a company. However, the Dragons often seek 50% so their can have a true stake in the company and have equal footing in the minds of the entrepreneur.  Notwithstanding, on each deal done their will be a standard shareholders' agreement which will give true control .

Now in tonight's episodes, I might have negotiated differently, and if I was advising the Ginch Gonch guys, or if I was a Dragon, I would have sought 25% for $1M.  This would give the company a $4M, post money valuation, would have been a closer reflection of the revenue model used today, but would have given me a large enough stake in the company to matter.

However, it is easy to sit hear and say that, a lot harder on national television with the lights blaring in your eyes.

What do you think, did the Dragons miss out on Goody2Chews and Ginch Gonch? Post your pitch spefic comments at http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/e05/ and post your general comments below.

Discussion of Episode 4: If it don't fit.....I'm out!

Img_7448 Episode 4 really highlights the need for a fit to exist between investor, founder and opportunity. Kango

As we discuss extensively in our "Lessons from the Den" lecture, investors tend to fund areas they know.  That is why it was so important to the producers to recruit Dragons from a wide number of industries. Marc_1_1

From an opportunity standpoint, tonight's show proves the most angel investors like to stick to their knitting and invest in spaces they know well. That's why the lingerie opportunity gets differed to Laurie and the franchise feed deal goes to Jim. 

Tonight's show also illustrates that investors only fund those entrepreneurs with which they have rapport.  Both Kevin and Robert wanted to back Marc, based on this pitch and personality.  And everyone was turned off by Scotty for the same reasons.  So it appears that not only does the opportunity have to be in the Dragons' sweet spot, but so do the entrepreneurs.

What do you think? Is that the right way to invest? Did the Dragons make the right call?

Discussion of Episode 2: Read this Card, Take a Bath and Wash your Hands

Wow what a show?

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Season One's second show featured:

  • a woman's only eye-wear store
  • night vision goggles
  • cards that help you tell your emotional state
  • a blanket for your bathtub, and of course a hand washing product.

Now we'd like to know your thoughts. Do you agree with the Dragons? Did they make the right call? Were they too rough - not rough enough?

Preview of Episode 2

Uber Armchair Dragon, Kempton, has posted his preview of episode 2.

You can read such here: http://kempton.ideasRevolution.com/2006/10/11/dragons-den-s01-e02-preview/